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From: manes@magpie.linknet.com (Steve Manes)
Subject: Re: Gun Control (was Re: We're Mad as Hell at the TV News)
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Date: Mon, 5 Apr 1993 23:08:52 GMT
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Jim De Arras (jmd@cube.handheld.com) wrote:
: In article <C4u3x5.Fw7@magpie.linknet.com> manes@magpie.linknet.com (Steve  
: Manes) writes:
: [...]
: > I don't know how anyone can state that gun control could have NO
: > effect on homicide rates.  There were over 250 >accidental< handgun
: > homicides in America in 1990, most with licensed weapons.  More
: > American children accidentally shot other children last year (15)
: > than all the handgun homicides in Great Britain.  (Source: National
: > Safety Council.  Please... no dictionary arguments about RATES vs
: > TOTAL NUMBERS, okay?  They're offered for emphasis, not comparison).
: > 

: You're a great debater.  You chose your sources of information, claim them
: to  be superior,

I've made no such claim.  Please direct my attention towards any
posting of mine where I claimed superior sources of information.
It's probably because I bothered to post any references at all while
others seem content to post numbers pulled from the ozone, that
you've confused it with fact-twisting.  If so, I apologize.  

: then take those twisted numbers and twist them further by trying  

Well then, here's fair opportunity for you to prove that I've "twisted
numbers."  On what grounds do you contradict those references?  Do you have
any citations... any sources of your own that I can take similar
gratuitous shots at?

: to compare absolute numbers between two countries that have major population  
: differences, the USA and GB, and then whine that you are afraid someone might  
: attack your process, and so claim the numbers are for "emphasis, not  
: comparison"?  Emphasis of what?

Nitpicking and scolding is a whiney debating style, Jim.

: Anything else is blowing smoke.

You seddit, brudda.
 
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Stephen Manes					   manes@magpie.linknet.com
Manes and Associates				   New York, NY, USA  =o&>o

